Looty Toons
and so after the 25man loot rules has been stated out, some are satisfied and some are still confused. well thats becoz the guild is make up of different ppl from different backgrd hence there always exists different feedback/feelings.
but there are a few recent issues i need to express my own opinion.
For newbies:
recently there have been alot of new players that join our guild, probably thro the intro/recommendations of others. I must say that our guild doesnt really have much progression to attract new players , so i assume these new players join us becoz they have frens in our guild. However, the color "purple" has always been an issue for us as well as other guilds. Newbies pointing out about unfair treatment as well as a close knitted family that they cant penetrate into.
Perhaps i can share my story to the rest here. I came over to Makan from DOOM. i believe many might have doubts i will stay long in makan since doom has much progression than makan. but i was looking for someting casual and someting that a family can do together to achieve greater heights. When i came into Makan, i only knew Tinkyyo. i felt abit helpless especially when tinkky is not online in game becoz i dunno who else in makan that i can tok to.
so tinkky advise me to come down to the april bbq at beef's apartment , which is a best chance for me to know the rest and vice versa. However, it was not easy. i wasnt able to start a prolonged conversation and i also notice that there was a core grp that interact happily. I wasnt sure whether i can click/interact with them.during tuesday gathering, the conversation was yet again steaming hot in the mid section of the table . But i was sitting at a corner, not sure what to say and who to talk to.
so i started to come up with weird conclusions that perhaps the core group doesnt like me or i unable to enter into their group conversations. inside game, i will feel that everyone doesnt really wan to help me coz they rather help their own core grp of frens. My morale then was terribly low. i thought of quitting the game back then.
but i really gave a careful thought abt it. i ask myself is there anyting i can do to improve the situation. so i decided the best way to mingle into the core group is to let them slowly understand what kind of person i am. i will tried to help out in raids/instances, providing helps in mats and try to talk more in vent as well as in gathering. as time goes by, i slowly manage to feel at home, feel myself part of the big family.
so i understand now, there was INDEED a core grp.but they have nver attempt to close the door on me nor the new members. It is about how to slowly merging with the big family , interacting and understanding and finally functioning together.
so what i can tell the new members now, is that by blaming others having a core grp and causing u to feel "out" is not a good reason. The door has always been open for u and if what u have been doing at home is juz to play wow and not interacting, there will bound to be a time u will find urself distancing away from the open door.
Dun ask why officers attempted to ask u to pass ur roll to someone else, this is not favoritism. but Remember why officers attempted to bring you to raids , this is to gear u up.
dun feel disheartened/frustrated when lost a loot to a veteran and wonder why nobody stop him from rolling
but Remember how excited u feel when u got ur first kara loot and the dejected guild mate whom lost the roll to u.
To veterans.
looting even affects veterans til now but maybe just some. i must said that there is no such thing as enforcing the art of passing loot. when we decided to join a raid, this means we agree to stick with the rolling system.
if today i pass my loot to u, i feel happy and the person benefited from it also happy = everyone happy.
if today i wan the loot, i roll and i win, i feel happy, the person affected feel sad = rest disappointed.
now looking at the above scenario, if everyone wans to be happy, everyone all start passing loot, then we might as well DE the loot coz we will pass loot from attumen all the way to prince. if the person rolls a loot, we have to support his decision by believing that its an upgrade for him as well as his conscience is clear. Never mind even if someone wans to make use of our kind hearts and roll for every single loot, coz in the end he can top the dps chart but we will be always at prince and therefore he cant progress further w/o waiting for us to gear up.
there is also no need to whisper/complain to the raid leader about why he nver stop the roll. if every single roll needs to be reflected upon, we can spend 3 hrs at attunmen juz to solve the issue. guys and gals, there is no need to be frustrated about someone who keeps loot whoring, after all this is a virtual item , and u cant bring it to ur grave when u die. most important is we want the raid to be smooth and have fun downing bosses. There is no need for childish ideas about i wan to shift to another group coz i hate to be in the same grp with this raider etc. Put urself into the officers' shoes, an officer has to solve ur personal grievances as well as leading raid etc. Dun ruin the days of others , spare a thought for them.
for officers
if today u met with tons and tons of guild problems from the guild mates feedback, u dun run away from it. instead , u shld sit down and try to give a deep thought into it. every feedback is valuable in their own ways. being an officer is definitely not easy, not everyone is born to lead or to communicate well to his guild. but u must treat it as a learning process, there will be tons and tons of problems throw at u, u have to filter and solve the most important at hand.
when u are being appointed as an officer out of a hundred or more guildies, that proves u have what it takes to undertake the task. remember how many people are happy for u , the support they gave u when u are appointed. imagine how many ppl will be disappointed when u decide to shun away from all the responsibilities when u feel u cant overcome the problems.
if u feel stressful, we gave u helpers to lessen ur load but they are not ur replacements. With greater power comes greater responsibilities. Learning how to handle a guild will come in handy when u go out to work in the society. Man management and communication skills are all part and parcel of working life.
just for thoughts
to lesser some loads of officers, i have always been pushing forward for the idea of class leaders. they act as a mid channel for guildies to express their thoughts and views instead of hundred over guildies all refering to the poor officers
a great example is the mage class. when i juz enter makan, i got lots of complains and feedback and only one person was there to listen and giving me guidance. he was none other than Maicha. he will correct my wrong thoughts and also direct good suggestions from me to the officers. in this way, officers can get better filtering of feedback and have lesser load.
feedback flow: guildies -> class leaders -> officers -> guild leader
and when there is certain problem with a guildie , the class leader can always step up to handle the situation instead of everyting must be the officer.
everyone must do a part to enable this guild to progress. Not only officers but also veterans and all the way to the new members as well.
Every guild has new problems surfaced every single day but it doesnt hinder us because we are MAKAN!!
but there are a few recent issues i need to express my own opinion.
For newbies:
recently there have been alot of new players that join our guild, probably thro the intro/recommendations of others. I must say that our guild doesnt really have much progression to attract new players , so i assume these new players join us becoz they have frens in our guild. However, the color "purple" has always been an issue for us as well as other guilds. Newbies pointing out about unfair treatment as well as a close knitted family that they cant penetrate into.
Perhaps i can share my story to the rest here. I came over to Makan from DOOM. i believe many might have doubts i will stay long in makan since doom has much progression than makan. but i was looking for someting casual and someting that a family can do together to achieve greater heights. When i came into Makan, i only knew Tinkyyo. i felt abit helpless especially when tinkky is not online in game becoz i dunno who else in makan that i can tok to.
so tinkky advise me to come down to the april bbq at beef's apartment , which is a best chance for me to know the rest and vice versa. However, it was not easy. i wasnt able to start a prolonged conversation and i also notice that there was a core grp that interact happily. I wasnt sure whether i can click/interact with them.during tuesday gathering, the conversation was yet again steaming hot in the mid section of the table . But i was sitting at a corner, not sure what to say and who to talk to.
so i started to come up with weird conclusions that perhaps the core group doesnt like me or i unable to enter into their group conversations. inside game, i will feel that everyone doesnt really wan to help me coz they rather help their own core grp of frens. My morale then was terribly low. i thought of quitting the game back then.
but i really gave a careful thought abt it. i ask myself is there anyting i can do to improve the situation. so i decided the best way to mingle into the core group is to let them slowly understand what kind of person i am. i will tried to help out in raids/instances, providing helps in mats and try to talk more in vent as well as in gathering. as time goes by, i slowly manage to feel at home, feel myself part of the big family.
so i understand now, there was INDEED a core grp.but they have nver attempt to close the door on me nor the new members. It is about how to slowly merging with the big family , interacting and understanding and finally functioning together.
so what i can tell the new members now, is that by blaming others having a core grp and causing u to feel "out" is not a good reason. The door has always been open for u and if what u have been doing at home is juz to play wow and not interacting, there will bound to be a time u will find urself distancing away from the open door.
Dun ask why officers attempted to ask u to pass ur roll to someone else, this is not favoritism. but Remember why officers attempted to bring you to raids , this is to gear u up.
dun feel disheartened/frustrated when lost a loot to a veteran and wonder why nobody stop him from rolling
but Remember how excited u feel when u got ur first kara loot and the dejected guild mate whom lost the roll to u.
To veterans.
looting even affects veterans til now but maybe just some. i must said that there is no such thing as enforcing the art of passing loot. when we decided to join a raid, this means we agree to stick with the rolling system.
if today i pass my loot to u, i feel happy and the person benefited from it also happy = everyone happy.
if today i wan the loot, i roll and i win, i feel happy, the person affected feel sad = rest disappointed.
now looking at the above scenario, if everyone wans to be happy, everyone all start passing loot, then we might as well DE the loot coz we will pass loot from attumen all the way to prince. if the person rolls a loot, we have to support his decision by believing that its an upgrade for him as well as his conscience is clear. Never mind even if someone wans to make use of our kind hearts and roll for every single loot, coz in the end he can top the dps chart but we will be always at prince and therefore he cant progress further w/o waiting for us to gear up.
there is also no need to whisper/complain to the raid leader about why he nver stop the roll. if every single roll needs to be reflected upon, we can spend 3 hrs at attunmen juz to solve the issue. guys and gals, there is no need to be frustrated about someone who keeps loot whoring, after all this is a virtual item , and u cant bring it to ur grave when u die. most important is we want the raid to be smooth and have fun downing bosses. There is no need for childish ideas about i wan to shift to another group coz i hate to be in the same grp with this raider etc. Put urself into the officers' shoes, an officer has to solve ur personal grievances as well as leading raid etc. Dun ruin the days of others , spare a thought for them.
for officers
if today u met with tons and tons of guild problems from the guild mates feedback, u dun run away from it. instead , u shld sit down and try to give a deep thought into it. every feedback is valuable in their own ways. being an officer is definitely not easy, not everyone is born to lead or to communicate well to his guild. but u must treat it as a learning process, there will be tons and tons of problems throw at u, u have to filter and solve the most important at hand.
when u are being appointed as an officer out of a hundred or more guildies, that proves u have what it takes to undertake the task. remember how many people are happy for u , the support they gave u when u are appointed. imagine how many ppl will be disappointed when u decide to shun away from all the responsibilities when u feel u cant overcome the problems.
if u feel stressful, we gave u helpers to lessen ur load but they are not ur replacements. With greater power comes greater responsibilities. Learning how to handle a guild will come in handy when u go out to work in the society. Man management and communication skills are all part and parcel of working life.
just for thoughts
to lesser some loads of officers, i have always been pushing forward for the idea of class leaders. they act as a mid channel for guildies to express their thoughts and views instead of hundred over guildies all refering to the poor officers
a great example is the mage class. when i juz enter makan, i got lots of complains and feedback and only one person was there to listen and giving me guidance. he was none other than Maicha. he will correct my wrong thoughts and also direct good suggestions from me to the officers. in this way, officers can get better filtering of feedback and have lesser load.
feedback flow: guildies -> class leaders -> officers -> guild leader
and when there is certain problem with a guildie , the class leader can always step up to handle the situation instead of everyting must be the officer.
everyone must do a part to enable this guild to progress. Not only officers but also veterans and all the way to the new members as well.
Every guild has new problems surfaced every single day but it doesnt hinder us because we are MAKAN!!
Btw eddy, Good points taken.
I once felt this when I first came into makan too, but i guess my bullshitting bring me closer to the door rather than my skills~ hahha
and one more thing... UR mAGE WILL ALWAYS BE UR MAIN!!! IDC!